Interview: ‘Saint John of Las Vegas’ Writer/Director Hue Rhodes

Posted by Nick Ondras on February 13, 2010 at 6:30 am

Interview: ‘Saint John of Las Vegas’ Writer/Director Hue Rhodes

I’ve got a week off from school next week, and this being the splendorous time of year in which idiocy such as Valentine’s Day and From Paris With Love drops into theaters, my ten free days will most likely not be spent at the movies. There’s one stand-out that I do recommend you see, however, and that movie is Saint John of Las Vegas.

Writer-director of the small-time indie Hue Rhodes is going to go far. He’s an admirable filmmaker and human being whose warm personality will either make or break him in this business. I nabbed an interview with Rhodes, talking about the future of independent filmmaking as well as his new flick Saint John of LasVegas.

First off, let me congratulate you on your success with Saint John of Las Vegas. What inspired you to make a movie like this? Any films or people that influenced you?
I had the privilege of going to film school, and watching a huge number of films in a very short period of time.  I can’t point to one film that influenced me.  But I would say that I had never seen filmmakers like Buster Keaton, Buñuel, or Ozu, or Fellini, before I went.  I am not comparing myself to them.  But they had a huge influence on me.
Approximately how long did it take to write the script? Did you have the general idea for the movie in your head when you sat down to write it, or was Saint John of Las Vegas something that just happened while you were writing something else?
I wrote the first draft quickly – in three weeks.  I had a general idea of what would happen.  I used Dante’s Inferno for inspiration, so I read Dante and asked myself “what is the midwestern auto insurance equivalent of this situation?”
Did you expect a national release, or a strictly limited one with the movie when making it?
Indievest, the finance company, is also a distributor.  That’s their business model.  So we were confident the film would get as aggressive a release as was possible.
With independent films like Saint John of Las Vegas, social media plays a major part in how much money the film makes and how many people go to see it. What do you think about this new word-of-mouth way of getting people to see indie films like yours?
I think the key to social media is understanding why people use it.  People blog, Twitter, or post, to communicate with their peers.  It’s not that people are interested in my film.  It’s that my film serves as fuel for their discussion.  Understood that way, social media can be extremely effective in getting the word out.  But it’s not effective if the promotional efforts try to get people to stop having their own conversations, and pay attention to marketing.
What was it like working with Steve Buscemi? What was his first reaction to your asking his involvement?
Steve is a prince.  You’ve never met anyone more gracious, professional, and approachable.  We had a great, sincere discussion about the film, and that set the tone for the whole production.  Casting Steve was one of the luckiest breaks I’ve had, in my career.

For filmmakers out there on a low budget, any tips on how to keep the deficit down? I know Saint John of Las Vegas didn’t have that big a budget, yet you were still able to make a great looking movie with well-known actors.
Take the limitations and incorporate them into the film’s design. If you don’t have time to do tripod shots, create a visual style that exploits hand-held.  In our case we didn’t have the resources to do a lot of set building, so we came up with a design scheme that was portable – simple colors, red, blue, yellow, black and white.  So we were able to impose a level of production design that was stronger than what you’d expect, for our budget. We also stuck to a shooting style (square to the frame, clean singles) that let us avoid shooting master shots, in some scenes.  So we saved an hour here, an hour there. Time is the killer.  If you are shooting days, night will come.  And if you are shooting nights, you are racing the sunrise.  Your day will end, with or without the shots you need.  So make sure you set yourself up for success.

Do you believe that anyone else could have directed your script besides yourself and still have made a good movie out of it?
If someone else directed it, film would travel through the camera, actors would act, sound would be recorded, and an editor would edit.  So it would be a film.  I can’t say what “good” is so I can’t say if it would be good.  But there is no way it would resemble what we came up with.  And I love what we came up with.
Finally, do you have any plans on what your next movie might be? Would you ever make a drama, horror, etc., a movie outside of the comedy genre?
My world perspective will come through in what I write, and what I direct.  Just like the camera operator’s world view comes through in the frame choice.  I love all kinds of movies.  The question is, how appropriate is my perspective, for different genres?  We’ll have to see.
Saint John of Las Vegas is now playing in select cities and expands throughout the month of February.


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